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Bipartisanship - is this an oxymoronic expression?

Bipartisanship - is this an oxymoronic expression?

posted to Government Corruption,  by tpaine2009
2/12/2010 6:11:00 AM
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Bipartisanship claim of GOP or Dem candidate – sounds like an oxymoronic expression.


You have only to look at the bitter, counterproductive behavior of both parties since Watergate to realize that true bipartisanship is a joke. A candidate, or officeholder, only brings up this self-serving claim when they think they are in trouble with the electorate, need to avoid taking a position on a critical issue, or are trying to raise money. That list is not exhaustive.


On a higher level both parties themselves spew forth  this term when they can’t get their own way or fail to jam some b.s. piece of legislation through Congress; take “crap and tax” a/k/a cap and trade, for example.


If you are running as a representative of either party and champion the ideology, platform or issues of that party, then to blatantly claim bipartisanship is hypocritical at best, or fraudulent and disingenuous speech at worst. In fact, a candidate claiming to be bipartisan during an election could be called dishonest, insincere, deceitful and an outright fraud. Gee, sounds like a perfect fit for Washington – if he also has past tax problems.


When you come right down to it, the only true bipartisan candidate, legislator, or even executive like Mr. “I think I can walk on water” Obama, would be an Independent.


Now the trick to getting rid of this cesspool full of “bipartisan” politicians is to unite all independent Americans into one non-aligned, pro-American, pro-Constitution party that calls for fiscal responsibility, smaller and less-intrusive government, separation of Wall Street money from campaign financing and restoration of our economy through support and non interference with our free enterprise, capitalist system.

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Re: Bipartisanship - is this an oxymoronic expression?
posted by: lucre on 2/12/2010 9:52:00 AM
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I think one of the reasons for the bi-partisanship problem is the lack of national term limits. Many of these politicians have been around for too long and their priorities have changed from representing the people to preserving their comfortable jobs and pensions.

Re: Bipartisanship - is this an oxymoronic expression?
posted by: TheySaidWhat? on 2/12/2010 2:00:00 PM
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I totally agree lucre. I also think that a lot of politicians USE the church card to get elected again and once there forget the word completely. I don't know why we don't HAVE term limits on every position. It's a shame that a lot of these guys and gals just seem to hang on for the money and never actually do anything.

Re: Bipartisanship - is this an oxymoronic expression?
posted by: purple on 2/13/2010 8:27:00 AM
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Two many members of Congress have held the same seat for way too long. And then when they decide to leave the seat, they run for a different office. Term limits would be nice, but there would still be a number of career politicians in office.

Re: Bipartisanship - is this an oxymoronic expression?
posted by: Educator on 2/13/2010 1:00:00 PM
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There's all of that, and then there's the fact that even those who agree that "bipartisanship" is something they are willing to work towards, they continue to turn around and say/do things that suggest otherwise. So high school.

Re: Bipartisanship - is this an oxymoronic expression?
posted by: fich0801 on 2/13/2010 2:13:00 PM
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Hell will freeze over before the Supreme Court is "allowed" to make that constitutional amendement. So how about we try something like ummm.....voting them out of office. We have the power to do so but yet we keep voting the way we do. I guarantee you come midterm elections and even the presidential election nothing will change even though there is this across- the- board anti government sentiment brewing. That is just one thing it seems about this country, we are so afraid of oppostion and politcal revolution that even in the face of change we back down and do nothing. Is it because even though we are not fully happy with the political situation in this country we are complacent?

Re: Bipartisanship - is this an oxymoronic expression?
posted by: Vote2012 on 2/14/2010 11:47:00 AM
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I love the iPolitics Ele-Donkey!

Re: Bipartisanship - is this an oxymoronic expression?
posted by: lex on 2/14/2010 8:47:00 PM
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The eledonkey rocks! Maybe a cryptozoologist will find out these things actually exist -- only after most of the current members of Congress is replaced with new blood.

Re: Bipartisanship - is this an oxymoronic expression?
posted by: lucre on 2/16/2010 8:04:00 PM
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Saw Joe the Plumber today on Fox regarding him not being a supporter of McCain anymore. Both parties will likely get hit hard this year, but the Democrats worse because they simply have more people in office. The sentiment is "through the bums out!" and I have to agree with them.

Re: Bipartisanship - is this an oxymoronic expression?
posted by: lucre on 2/17/2010 12:20:00 AM
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The way Sen. Bayh announced his retirement certainly confirms the point on the nonexistence of true bu-partisanship.

Re: Bipartisanship - is this an oxymoronic expression?
posted by: Jrsygrl on 2/19/2010 6:51:00 PM
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Fich0801 hit the nail on the head - if you have a problem with your congressman, vote him out of office and work hard to get rid of him. There is nothing wrong with the terms - the people keep voting these people in.

How ironic that the people keep these congressman in office and then complain. But when it comes to the presidential race, most Americans have zero understanding of the Electoral College and they complain about not having a say.

Back to the subject at hand...bipartisanship, in its purest form, will not happen. However, we have had leaders who are more willing to compromise and work with the opposing party than what we are dealing with right now. Obama doesn't want to work with Republicans, nor does he want to work with Americans. He just wants what he wants and to hell with everybody else.

The best we will ever get out of both parties working together on something is a compromise. But you won't see that during the term of the fearless leader we have now.

Re: Bipartisanship - is this an oxymoronic expression?
posted by: Vote2012 on 2/20/2010 12:36:00 PM
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Unified against the most recent Supreme Court decision allowing corporations virtually unlimited campaign spending was a positive sign. There are still certain issues people come together on.

Re: Bipartisanship - is this an oxymoronic expression?
posted by: purple on 3/5/2010 9:31:00 AM
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I think it is too late in 2010 for any organized third party movement to make a significant dent in Congress, but maybe 2012? Ross Perot and the Reform Party was the last time there was a significant push that actually yielded some serious organization, and I know that was no easy feat. How do you think a new third party movement would evolve?

Re: Bipartisanship - is this an oxymoronic expression?
posted by: fich0801 on 3/8/2010 10:02:00 AM
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I think it would have to be incumbents that break away from their party because it would be hard for an entire constituancy to put their trust and their vote in a virtual unknown. We need familiar faces to lead this third party movement because I guarantee people will not get on board if they don't feel comfortable. I still believe that not all of capitol hill is caught up in the madness even if some think that is not possible. I really like individuals like Joe Liberman.

Re: Bipartisanship - is this an oxymoronic expression?
posted by: tpaine2009 on 3/10/2010 12:47:00 PM
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For incumbents to break away they have to have somewhere to go and if a new party was to ever get started the idea of bringing aboard credible, honest, mainstream elected officials is absolutely critical for a new party to gain voter trust and credibility.

As to leadership, this is a problem if the party hands over that role to a member of either party now in control because it might indicate a prejudice towards that party however incorrect.

What makes sense to me is we organize the party by posting a set of issues to start with as the "platform" our eventual candidates will support and then invite current office holders to post on our website their support of not only that issue, or issues, but of the party itself. Once they're "on record", that should begin the process of obtaining trust and confidence and also stop the inevitable "Benedict Arnold's". Remember, evolution, not revolution is the key.

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